What you feel about creating logs related with #life ?

Hey, guys, I want to ask you how you feel when you see someone or you do create yourself logs about #life?

I do it myself. In my opinion, exercise is directly related to productivity so I think it makes sense to log it. What you think should be logged and not logged?

I actually think it's great. but do you refer the question directly to Makerlog? I think everyone should use Makerlog in a way that gives them positive energy and motivation. That means you can log everything that will help you personally and brings you a step forward.

Of course, a toilet session won't get you that far. 😂 ok in some situations perhaps nevertheless 😀 Personally, i keep it that way, generally all things that have brought me forward in the day. this also includes sports or weekend activities, for example.

just my 2cents

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Fajar Siddiq

This is true Hen. I have the same sentiments. But is there a model or a feature for this?

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But is there a model or a feature for this?

@fajarsiddiq I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean exactly. Can you explain a little bit more? :-)

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Fajar Siddiq

@dehenne I reply in the thread bottom

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This! Life logs aren't necessarily bad, and the official use is to use Makerlog as a place to store your progress and improvement. Life logs are part of that.

I life log all the time!

Life logs to keep your streak are another story… haha

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🔥Carlos Branco Author

Yes, I refer to makerlog. I notice some logs like "45 of 365 days" in my opinion this kind of logs doesn't make any sense. I see them has a cheap way to keep a streak. So I was just wondering what makes sense and what it doesn't. But of course, people have the freedom to log anything. Thanks for your comment.

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Fajar Siddiq

True, i agree with you. This conversation topic about life and product have been a hot topic.

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well, it's a personal thing, too. I use makerlog like a kind of work/productivity diary. and so I don't want to lie to myself :-) 45 of 365 days as a log makes no sense to me either.

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Fajar Siddiq

@dehenne same, exactly. But i deleted my account previously to not mess with the streak model. So i decided to start new with just products, now anything personal but not so personal i go on my #fajarsiddiq personal site.

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Fajar Siddiq

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Fajar Siddiq

What do you think of this idea? @dehenne @12months12projecs

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🔥Carlos Branco Author

@fajarsiddiq it's an idea. But I'm not sure if there is a real problem to solve here. If in one year from now the top 10 makers if full with streaks of people posting "how many days to the end of the year" then I think there is a problem because destroy all purpose of the competition.

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@fajarsiddiq now I understand :D … for this, @sergio had to introduce different task types. like the gitlab or github type. maybe sport, dinner, party

but the idea is cool. you could also write clients that do it themselves. for example the beginning of each task would be the type. sports:, dinner: :-)))

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Fajar Siddiq

@12months12projecs Then we will have a different category. Top streaks, Top todo, Top life, Most successful product base on vote and so on, this feature will be great as a whole. If everyone depends on streaks to battle with the current top streakers on makerlog, it would probarbly take a year i think

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Fajar Siddiq

@dehenne This is great

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Fajar Siddiq
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🔥Carlos Branco Author

@fajarsiddiq Maybe choosing categories would be a little bit overkill. I feel that the more options exist the easiest is for me to give up on using something. Unless categories are connected with #hashtags. Anyway, your idea looks good.

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Fajar Siddiq

@12months12projecs Thank you Carlos!

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Fabio Rosado

I'm with @dehenne - if you log stuff with #life because you just did a run, meditated or whatever it was in order to keep you productive then there is no issue with it imo. If you do Log 45 of 365 and don't even log anything else for the whole day, that's just silly - plus now that we have rest days you can just use those!

Also, I kind of like that idea @fajarsiddiq, it could be cool to have an overview of those activities, but… you would have to log them with #food, #run, #etc… and might increase the level of unproductive things.

Personally,​ I don't think logging food makes sense, since… we all need food and sleep so it's obvious that you will have that haha

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Fajar Siddiq

Sure, but do you have a solution for this?

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Jason Leow

Reading this thread, it made me curious: what would you do with the #life data after they are logged? How would it help you with your retrospective/project/productivity?

I'm open to this feature but struggling to see how it will be useful for me…like, how would seeing that i ran on this day help me? Is this more about like quantified self and having a analytics layer on top of that data in order for it to be of any use?

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Fajar Siddiq

Yes i'm curious too jason! But as a maker, alot of things involve in our life and not just products, people won't know our product sometimes until we know someones awesome creation too by life log

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Jason Leow

@fajarsiddiq life as a product!

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Fajar Siddiq

@jasonleow haha yes! i put myself as a product #fajarsiddiq i can't do anything much, but that's how i figure it out. I wanted to hashtag #life but yeah u know what i mean haha

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I can only talk about myself now. the thing is, my hobby is my work and vice versa and the thing is, I'm forgetting time. I've automated a lot and a lot of things are routine for me. A big disadvantage is, I forget a lot of things, or let's just say unimportant things have no place in my brain. :D

Makerlog helps me if I've already done certain things. training is a good example. I can rarely say when I last trained. one look at Makerlog and I can see when my last workout was. Why do I need that? I try to train every second or third day.

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Jason Leow

@dehenne oic…that's interesting. Work that's automated is like 'out of sight, out of mind'. A thing that's pretty unique to devs/makers/tech folks, which then makes perfect sense to log tasks the way we do. I understand Makerlog better now!

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  • Logging school/courses/conferences/events/books etc. Learning is very much part of our maker lives.
  • Meetups (meeting other makers)
  • The occasional #life task when it's something interesting/useful/funny, something that changed your day or your life, helped you get a good idea etc

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  • Daily lifelogs with water, food, gym, pill or whatever for the sake of streak keeping (or not). We all drink water, eat etc. For measuring water intake, gym goals or pill reminders there are special free apps, for posting food there's Instagram.
  • Using tasks to poke fun at others and tag that as #life or similar.

In general, before posting a #life log I think we should all take a moment and consider "What would Makerlog become if we all start to post this on a regular basis?"

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🔥Carlos Branco Author

I believe if is something easy not to do you should log it. Example: Gym. Gym has a direct impact on my productivity as a maker. Don't go to the gym it's so easy. So I believe it makes sense to log it. When we talk about food. Well, you eat every day no matter what. I agree with you, don't make much sense to log.

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@12months12projecs

Gym is in the same category as food. The category of things that helps with the state of mind regardless if you're a maker or not. There has to be a line drawn between what helps us as makers and what helps us as humans.

It doesn't pass the question "What would Makerlog become if we all start to post this on a regular basis?". Think, how would you like if we all started logging gym? The feed would be boring, we'd get tired of seeing a long list of gym instead of interesting working tasks.

We can't just put every life thing that helps us as humans. What if for me sex helps, or baking cookies, and I start logging that all the time?

Like I said, there are better (and free) apps for tracking fitness and other human factors. Makerlog is not that.

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I'm 100% not a fan. I was drawn to Makerlog to see what other makers are working on with their side projects, and really enjoyed seeing people's tasks line up with seeing their projects grow and improve, as well as get inspired by makers who have 50, 100, 150 days of shipping business-related tasks under their belts.

Of course, anyone can use Makerlog however they like, however I feel there are a bunch of other apps that help with life related tasks (Gyroscope, MyFitnessPal, Strava are all apps I use for this), and seeing "watched tv #life", "9-5 #life", or "looked at instagram #life" completely dilutes the achievements of those who have achieved amazing streaks of productivity, and also raises the question of where the line is between Makerlog being a task-logging platform for makers, or just a community checklist app.

If you didn't ship something to do with your projects that day, then you didn't ship something. That doesn't mean write something to keep your streak going, that doesn't mean write what you did instead of shipping something, it just means you didn't ship. And on a platform that's built on streaks, this is really the entire point. It's okay to fail at keeping your streak. Where's the challenge in keeping your momentum, motivation, and productivity otherwise?

Of course, this is just my personal opinion, which means nothing in the grand scheme of things, and I may be way off base 😇

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